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Wednesday, March 25, 2009

Interview with Bob Roberts

 From the same site. He made a great point. "Missional" does not mean we have planted a few churches or have a few missions or service projects. It means that the whole church views itself as a missionary. I like that. Very similar to Mike Frost's missional is when mission is the organizing principle of the church -- not worship, not community.

Missional is so in vogue now that it practically means little. How many of MDivers are now getting DMins in missional leadership? Thankfully, many pastors are reading stuff like Frost and Hirsch. I'm glad for it. But at the end of the day, it is not a change of degree; it is a change of kind. The former is executed from the top-down. The latter from the bottom-up.

- He also had great points about the every day disciple being everything -- not the leadership team (which is what the books all say and the practices for the last 50 years). At the end of the day, gospel transmission stands and falls on the quality of disciple who is incarnating (or not) the gospel of Jesus. Roberts believes the technology is there for the Great Commission to be fulfilled in 10 years time (wow) -- that is in terms of accessibility. But that doesn't mean that people will see and hear. Why? B/c of the lack of quality of disciples. This just underscores the need for everyday people to be disciples worth reproducing. THAT is infinitely more important than quality of program.

- ohhh, another nice nugget: many guys say, we're going to do this, this way, and that way, and be this kind of church. Great but that's just a model. To be a movement, it must be relational and organic. Otherwise you reproduce a model. Well said, Bob.

Bob is a good guy who sees the right things. And he's doing it from a big Southern church, Northwood.
Kudos to you, Bob.

Glocal.net is where you can find more info on stuff he's written. I recommend.
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very true. we all get this... but we're so conditioned to do the other. that is "form an organization" with those "values" and expect everything else to come along. classic top-down. we're all reaping the toxicity from that phil of ministry.
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